Friday, October 07, 2005

Stupid Muslim Tricks: Saudi Soccer Fatwa

The Islamic geniuses in Saudi Arabia have ruled that Muslims should not play soccer like the Europeans do because it violates the Prophetic tradition (hadith) against imitating Christians and Jews. The Neanderthal Wahhabi clerics dictate that soccer can only be played if the rules are different from the rest of the world and the players play only to get in good shape to kill infidels in the jihad.

One of the soccer fatwas, written by Saudi Sheikh 'Abdallah Al-Najdi, as published in the Saudi daily, Al-Watan, on August 22, 2005:
"1. Don't play soccer with four lines [surrounding the field], since this is the way of the non-believers, and the international soccer rules require drawing [these lines] before playing.

"2. One should not use the terminology established by the non-believers and the polytheists, like: 'foul,' 'penalty kick,' 'corner kick,' 'goal,' and 'out of bounds.' Whoever pronounces these terms should be punished, reprimanded, kicked out of the game, and should even be told in public: 'You have come to resemble the non-believers and the polytheists, and this has been forbidden.'

"3. If one of you falls during the game and breaks his hand or his foot, or if the ball hits his hand, he shall not say 'foul' and shall not stop playing because of his injury. The one who caused his injury shall not receive a yellow or a red card, but rather the case shall be judged according to Muslim law in the case of a broken bone or an injury. The injured player shall exercise his rights according to the shari'a, as [is stated] in the Koran, and you must testify together with him that so-and-so tripped him up intentionally.

"4. Do not set the number [of players] according to the number of players used by the non-believers, the Jews, the Christians, and especially the vile America. In other words, 11 players shall not play together. Make it a larger or a smaller number.

"5. Play in your normal clothing, or in pajamas, or something like that, but not in colorful pants and numbered jerseys. Pants and jerseys are not appropriate clothing for Muslims. They are the clothing of the non-believers and of the West, and therefore you must be careful not to wear them.

"6. Once you have fulfilled [these] conditions and rules, you must play the entire game with the intention of improving your physical fitness for the purpose of fighting Jihad for Allah's sake and preparing for the time when jihad is needed. One should not waste time in celebrating a false victory.

"7. Do not play for 45 minutes, as is the practice among the Jews, the Christians, and in all of the countries of non-belief and atheism. This is also the length of time that is accepted in the soccer clubs of those who have strayed from the righteous path. You must be different than the non-believers, depart from their path, and not imitate them in anything.

"8. Do not play in two parts [i.e. halves], but rather in one part or in three parts, so as to be different than the sinful and rebellious, the non-believers and the polytheists.

"9. If neither side has defeated the other and neither side has inserted the ball between the posts, do not waste further time [in an extension] or in 'penalty kicks' until someone has won, but rather leave [the field] immediately, since this kind of victory is precisely an imitation of the non-believers and [adoption] of the international soccer rules.

"10. Do not appoint someone who follows the players around and is called 'a referee', since, after canceling the international rules such as 'foul,' 'penalty kick,' 'corner kick' and so on, there is no need for his presence. Moreover, his presence is an imitation of non-believers, Jews and Christians, and constitutes adoption of the international [soccer] rules.

"11. In the course of the game it is forbidden for groups of youth to gather and watch, since if you are gathering for the sake of sports activity and physical fitness, as you claim, why should they be looking at you? You must make them participate [in order to improve] their physical fitness and prepare for jihad; or else say to them, 'Go propagate Islam and seek out moral corruption in the marketplaces and in the press [in order to correct it], and leave us to improve our physical fitness.'

"12. When you finish playing, be careful not to talk about the game, and not to say 'we play better than the opponent,' or 'so-and-so is a good player,' etc. Moreover, you should speak about your body, its strength and its muscles, and about the fact that you are playing as [a means of] training to run, attack, and retreat in preparation for [waging] jihad for Allah's sake.

"13. If one of you inserts the ball between the posts and then starts to run so that his companions will run after him and hug him, like the players in America and France do, you should spit in his face, punish him, and reprimand him, for what do joy, hugging, and kissing have to do with sports?

"14. You must take the three posts or iron rods which you use to construct [the goal], and into which the ball is kicked, and replace them with just two instead of three. In other words, take out the cross-post or rod… so that [the goal] will not be similar to what is customary among the non-believers, and in order to violate the despotic international soccer rules.

"15. Do not do what is known as 'substitution' – that is, putting in a player in place of a player who has been disqualified – since this the custom of the non-believers in America and elsewhere."
The fatwa was issued in Saudi Arabia's al-Taif region, where the captain of the well known Al-Rashid soccer team reports that three of his team had left under the the belief that soccer was prohibited by Islam. They were recruited by Zarqawi's Al Qaeda terror organization in Iraq. One of them, Majid Al-Sawat, subsequently was arrested in Iraq while preparing to be a suicide bomber. He is held in prison in Mosul. The other two team members, Tamer al-Thamali and Dayf Allah al-Harithi, completed their suicide missions.

Saudi Arabia is our partner in the war against terror.

24 Comments:

Anonymous rightwingprof said...

ROTFLMAO!

Thanks for that!

Fri Oct 07, 04:15:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Lawful Good said...

Aw, heck. Like any red-blooded American, I hate soccer. But now that I have read that it is actually part of the huge international Zionist/Christian/Crusader conspiracy against Islam, I guess I'm going to have to start watching it.

Here's hoping they issue a fatwa against real football, and especially single out the Steelers.

-LG

Fri Oct 07, 06:05:00 PM 2005  
Blogger GunnNutt said...

16. If the opposing team attempts to place 11 players on the field, it is up to the Coach to ensure that at least one of the players is wearing a proper Jihad suicide belt and will at the appropriate time blow both teams to smithereens.

Sun Oct 09, 11:40:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous Kenny McGill said...

Muslims have the lowest intellect.They thimk God[allalh] would tell them to Kill another human being{gods creation]{Gods not dumb muslims. A muslim is someone who gives up the normal life and does gods work[not kill people for God]. The biggest COWARD kills others by killing themselves. The 2nd Coward osama laden who says he is in charge yet climbs in holes like sodumb insane,if he is a warrior why does he throw rocks over a wall rather than showing his face and then throwing it and staying to see if it worked not just be a little bitch and hide molesting young boys. All muslim converts are homosexual and where raped,molested or willingly had sex by the muslim leaders at your mosques. WOMEN ARE THE LEADERS OF ISLAM BECAUSE THE MEN TOOK ISLAM HOSTAGE AND KILLED IT.islam IS DEAD AND HAS ZERO CHANCE AT ANY TYPE OF COME BACK. tHERE is most likely 2-3 real muslims who know for a fact not to kill anything unless they personally tryed to kill them.So unless osama personally wants to fight someone one-on-one he can only hide like a woman would to a bastard{muslim man] First islam need to read there holy book and understand it ,99% of islam is illiterate{meaning you can't read}and can't understand god.muslims are all cowards by themselves but if there is a room full they tend to get an ego enough to blow themself up.How stupid are you letting your leaders brain wash you like your a redneck in the confederacy. Only an idiot would do someone elses dirty work cause they are a pussy and need people that don't use there brain to do it..................The muslim suicide bombers heaven:7 gay bars, 7 gay men with 7 penises sticking it in your 7 buttholes 7 times a day for 7 days a week until your faith returns to a non corrupt actual religion not just a gang of hoodrats or pieces of shit. So to you so called muslims in order to not be a waste of gods[allah] human skin you must realize that you personally need to seek salvation and spending your whole life trying to kill things is only taking you from the straight path to god and when you kill yourself you just killed the non-beleiver infidel you yourself, and if you killed an innocent person you liberated them from the presence of your distgusting and un-pure soul. Glory be to God and all his religious faiths

Tue Jan 24, 06:53:00 PM 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of their 8 games played in the World Cup, they have been shut out 6 times. Way to go Saudi Arabia. You are all very good muslims and the shittiest soccer players in the World Cup.

PS. Soccer was not invented by Muslims in the first place.

Wed Jun 21, 02:51:00 PM 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

why muslims are so idiots.. They just like to spread hatred, wars among neigbors. If they dont fight "infidels" such as normal,loving life people, they fight among themselves such as Shittes and sunnies..
Indeed they need to be educated a little more..!!!

Fri Aug 04, 04:39:00 AM 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Read "The End of Faith" by Sam Harris. It helps to explain the idiocy of Islam.

Wed May 30, 12:32:00 PM 2007  
Blogger jihan said...

I believe all of you learn about religion of Islam from your very TV channels and sitting in front of it like a worthless robots and keep repeating everything your CNN or BBC kind nature sources say.
When you talk about Islam at least know your own religion a piece little bit. Not from those guys who occupied Muslim nations because that would be stealing somehow...
Yes I have remembered Western Cultures based on Thieves and Gangs yet you may not remember this.
Was Hitler Christian?
Why I pointed these facts because that would make you understand that Islam is pure but followers of Islam might not that pure.
Think about that and just because ou could use your keyboard to type do not produce such hatred without knowing the real Islam like I would not judge Christianity by the actions of Hitler, Bush, Mussolini and others.

Mon Jun 25, 11:23:00 AM 2007  
Blogger Tantor said...

Jihan,

Most of us learned about Islam on Sep 11, 2001. All that celebrating in the Muslim world in the days that followed taught us everything we needed to know about Muslims and their religion.

Let me note that you don't even attempt to defend the stupid soccer fatwa by the stupid Muslim clerics but instead make wild claims based on your own wildly warped view of the West. It's pretty stupid to claim Hitler was a Christian. He was a pagan who believed in no religion. It's pretty stupid to suggest that Hitler made war for Christianity. Such a notion demonstrates your bigoted religious indoctrination.

We have made quite a study of Islam since Sep 11 and found it an evil and barbaric religion. The terrorists were simply emulating Mohammed's violence against non-Muslims and carrying out the violent and intolerant doctrine of Islam, which seeks to propagate itself through bloodshed. We have seen the real Islam at work at the World Trade Center, Pentagon, Madrid, London Tube, Bali, Beslan, ad infinitum. Consequently, we bear this wicked, hateful, and bloodthirsty religion the contempt it deserves.

Give up your Stone Age religion, abandon your primitive hatreds, and join the modern world.

Mon Jun 25, 01:41:00 PM 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

all of you are bunch of idiots, living like animals.No thinknig or concept. look around you, do you see? no family values, well educated people treat their pets better than their parents, who are sent eventually to the nursing home. Fathers raping daughters, cheating and serial killers. Teenagers value their friends more than their families. you are talking about bloodshed, who used the nuclear bomb? Who forced the prisoners to rape each other in Aboghraib ? great MODERN values, WOW !! You are talking about gays? they are in SanFransisco, which I do not think it is in the middle east. And before that how do you talk about homosexuality with no respect like this? Are'nt they your fellow citizens? Who deserve equality and freedom? Or this is the racial and profiling mentality that brought human beings from Africa to be salves here 300 years ago. By the way can you please remind me when the African human being was allowed to use the same bathroom with the WHITE CIVILIZED man in Georgia and Alabama, and when African American women were allowed to attend college in the south.I can tell you that many women in Africa, who are now retired grandmas, graduated from medical school before the first African American women attended medical school here. And can you tell me what do you think about your ELITE CIVILIZED speaker who called the striving and winning college students NAPY HEADED H..., just because of the skin color that God gave them? If you really know what God means? Don't you see celebrities leave their wives and live with other partners in public and get iligetimate kids from them while they are still married? Do you want your spouse to live with another partner while he or she is still married to you ? What do you call yourself then, a man ? a woman? a third party? What all the TV shows about? sex, cheating and crimes?
Do you know now why a CIVILIZED person would prefer to live with his/her cat or dog over their father or mother?

Wed Jul 18, 07:12:00 PM 2007  
Blogger Tantor said...

Anonymous Muslim: "all of you are bunch of idiots, living like animals.No thinknig or concept. look around you, do you see? no family values, well educated people treat their pets better than their parents, who are sent eventually to the nursing home. Fathers raping daughters, cheating and serial killers. Teenagers value their friends more than their families."

In usual Arab Muslim fashion, you don't even try to defend the stupidity of the fatwas by the Saudi clerics, but make a fallacious tu quoque rebuttal instead. It must be embarassing to defend such a shameful religion.

And of course, your wildly distorted view of America has no basis in reality. The mullahs fill your head with nonsense and you gullibly accept it. Were it not for the West, you would still be nomads herding animals. Even with the West's help, you still think like nomads just in from the desert, unable to tolerate anybody different from you.

Anonymous Muslim: "you are talking about bloodshed, who used the nuclear bomb?"

The atom bombs were used in defense of the US after an unprovoked attack on Pearl Harbor and other places and stopped the Japanese from shedding blood. For the price of 300,000 dead of the aggressor, it saved millions from being killed by the Japanese and by conventional war which would have drug on for years more. However, understanding that would require a rational interpretation of history rather than the wildly bigoted indoctrination you have received which cripples your thinking.

And I might note that the Muslims celebrated the Pakistani development of an atom bomb, funded by the Saudis. It is typical Muslim hypocrisy that you castigate America for using atom bombs in its rightful defense while you revel in the acquisition of atom bombs to be used to further Islam.

Anonymous Muslim: "Who forced the prisoners to rape each other in Aboghraib ?"

Nobody forced anybody to rape each other except in the feverish brains of lying Muslims. The guards who abused their prisoners at Abu Ghraib were punished, such behavior being unacceptable to the US. However, such abuse is the common fare of those in Muslim prisons everywhere, where prisoners are not even fed. No American has returned alive from Al Qaeda captivity, which glories in beheading its captives, in Arab Muslim fashion.

How hypocritical it is for you to castigate America for an incident of abuse which is the standard in the Muslim Arab world.

Anonymous Muslim: "You are talking about gays? they are in SanFransisco, which I do not think it is in the middle east. And before that how do you talk about homosexuality with no respect like this? Are'nt they your fellow citizens? Who deserve equality and freedom?"

Gay people are all over America and get a pretty fair shake. By contrast, homosexuals in the Muslim world are executed. Again, you demonstrate perfect hypocrisy in condemning America for standards of individual rights far superior to the Arab Muslim world.

Anonymous Muslim: "Or this is the racial and profiling mentality that brought human beings from Africa to be salves here 300 years ago."

The Arab word for black people is "slave." Slavery legally existed in Saudi Arabia until the '60s and still exists in practice today. The Saudis are the worst racists on the planet with respect to the black and brown people they treat as virtual slaves. If you want to see slaves, you don't need to return to America 300 years ago. You just visit Saudi Arabia today.

And please, the hypocrisy of you criticising centuries old slavery in America when Islam applauds slavery and commands you to make slaves of infidels.

Anonymous Muslim: "By the way can you please remind me when the African human being was allowed to use the same bathroom with the WHITE CIVILIZED man in Georgia and Alabama, and when African American women were allowed to attend college in the south."

Happens all the time. Such prejudice is a thing of the past. How hypocritical of you to complain about prejudice when Muslims are commanded by the Koran not to make friends with non-Muslims, when Saudis disdain to invite foreigners into their homes, when Saudis disdain foreigners even living among them lest they taint their culture. What blatant bigotry.

And who are you kidding by condemning America for keeping women out of college, women who are the majority of college students here, when the ignorant Muslim world is furiously against women's education. The Taliban, creatures of the Wahhabis, actively burn down schools in Afghanistan and murder girl students.

Anonymous Muslim: "Don't you see celebrities leave their wives and live with other partners in public and get iligetimate kids from them while they are still married? Do you want your spouse to live with another partner while he or she is still married to you ?"

More hypocrisy. Ibn Saud, the original king of Saudi Arabia, had seventeen wives and an unknown number of children. The estimates are 50 to 60. Saudi kings went through wives like toilet paper. Some of them would pass their used wives onto their favorites. Women mean nothing to Arab Muslims.

And really, who are you to criticize American marriages when Islam allows four wives in a marriage and temporary marriages of convenience? Lots of Muslims, like Bin Laden's father, casually took on wives with full approval of the Muslim clergy and dumped them with the same approval.

Anonymous Muslim: "What all the TV shows about? sex, cheating and crimes?"

As opposed to the beheading videos favored by the Muslim barbarians or the shows extolling suicide bombing or Jew-hating or collecting money for suicide bombers. Shows about sex are far preferable, being life-afirming, than your televised parade of hate.

Anonymous Muslim: "Do you know now why a CIVILIZED person would prefer to live with his/her cat or dog over their father or mother?"

So they could live freely and command their own destiny instead of being under the thumb of their family like a weak Muslim unable to run his/her own life.

Thu Jul 19, 04:30:00 PM 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First I did not defend the fatwa because I did not even read it, he is responsible for it not me. Saudi is a state and a nation, not the religion or the believe. Attacking Saudi does not defend what I have mentioned about you. The way you created stories and minimized the crimes against humanity showes that you have no brain and function at the spinal level like low animals.

Thu Jul 19, 04:50:00 PM 2007  
Blogger Tantor said...

The fact that you can not address my rebuttals with anything but namecalling demonstrates that you can not defend your position. But then, Muslims don't do rational rebuttals nor logical thought, do they? They sling mud to defend their barbarian notions because that's the best they can manage. That's one of the many reasons Muslims deserve little respect.

Thu Jul 19, 11:33:00 PM 2007  
Blogger How To Fix The American Government Now! said...

The only mascots shall be sheep for all teams and half time will be called sheep fucker's delight and during sheep fucker's delight all females who have desecrated their vaginas by shaving them bare will be stoned to death by the non-shaved, hairy-assed, bad smelling virgins in burkas that are so well loved by muslim men everywhere, but are shunned by others because of their bad smell, overly hairyness and faces that could scare a gorilla. Praise Allah, that fucking asshole.

Thu Sep 27, 01:17:00 PM 2007  
Blogger Up Yours said...

I think I smell a muslin.

Oh wait, no I just farted!

Thu Sep 27, 01:32:00 PM 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Muslim Motto;
We treat our women like animals and our animals like women.

Reason;
Sheep are bettr looking than muslim women.

Thu Sep 27, 01:34:00 PM 2007  
Anonymous Venom said...

Hehehe... This "sheikh" is mentally retarded and needs to seek some psycological help. I'm still studying islam and haven't made my decision yet on which religion to follow.

I strognly advise people to read about religions from their religios texts. For example, Christianity from the Bible(s), Judaism from the Torah, and Islam from the Quran.

I mean people would do anything to make money these days and honesty is a rare thing to find. So compare what this mans says with the original texts and find out if he makes sense.

I mean, some texts are only applicable in certain situations. So find out when the verse or saying was revealed and why.

A good way to learn about is Islam is to read Mohammads autobiography and just talk to muslims. I had many questions and doubts about Islam(and still do) but have had many of them explained to me after talking to knowledgable muslims.

Fact: Most(95+%) muslims love peace and dont want to harm anybody.

This is my first time on this site but it seems pretty interesting. So I think i'll look around a bit. Hopefully I learn something new. :-)

Sun Feb 03, 06:23:00 PM 2008  
Blogger Tantor said...

Venom,

By all accounts, Hani Hanjour was a very polite and humble guy right up until the time he flew American Airlines Flight 77 into the Pentagon, killing 184. You can not judge how radical a Muslim is by casual contact. A current estimate is that 10 to 15% of all Muslims are radicals who support jihad. If you don't understand why your personal experience with Muslims does not match their radical reputation, you might study up on the doctrine of taqqiyya.

If you are interested in a critique of Islam, you might try reading Robert Spencer's "The Politically Incorrect Guide(tm) to Islam (and the Crusades)" or any other Spencer book. You might also try Ibn Warraq's "Why I Am Not A Muslim."

Sun Feb 03, 08:45:00 PM 2008  
Anonymous Naser said...

Dear Tantor. My name is Naser and i'm from Saudi Arabia. What really makes us frustrated is that many people try to offend islam, and also to present a false stereotype of it. Islam is not what people claim it is. No one has the right to interpret islam by observing what muslims do because no one is perfect. In addition, most muslims, recently, follow islam wrongly. If you are talking about that islam is terror? why are there muslims in the united states living in peace. In other words, what these stupid terrorists are doing is the exact opposite what islam says because islam is peace and represent peace. For example, about 11 sep., what terrorist did is the exact opposite what islam tells us to do. In islam we're supposed to live in harmony and peace, not to hurt anyone, especially people from other religions. Surprisingly enough, islam prohibits killing anyone at anytime unless if he attempts to kill us. In other words, if there is a war between muslims and others, we're allowed to fight the person who tries to kills us only, not women, not children, not old men and not even trees. we are NOT allowed to cut trees in war!!! and you are telling me that islam is terror. The prophit Mohammed (peace be upon him) himself said translating " anyone who kills a person is like a sin killing the whole planet, and anyone who saves a person is like saving the whole planet. The muslim religion states: anyone who kills a person should be excuted unless the killed person's family forgives him.
PLEASE, i ask you kindly, don't judge the whole religion concept by some stupid people's actions.
About the fatwa (rumor), this is not what islam said, this is bullshit. Also, Abullah alnajdi, is not elligible to say something like that. In addition, there are a lot of arabic newspapers that stated directly after publishing this article by one day, is that this article is fabricated. One of them is the same newspaper which is Al Watan.
In islam, you said the man can marry 4 women but most people (non-muslims) disagree with this statement.
it's not that simple. there are many conditions for the muslim to marry the second, the third, or the fourth. First, the man MUST be fair and MUST be sure that he can be even with them. Secondly, if the first wife cannot get pregnant, the man has the right to marry the second one and better than devorcing her. Also, it is better for the man to stick with her and not marry the second because it may hurt the woman's feelings. Thirdly, if the wife doesn't give the man's right, he can divorce her or marry another woman. the man has NOT the right to hit her or even touch her in an offensive way. Howevr, if the man is not able to give her her rights, she has the right to divorce him. in addition, if the man is not able to have children, she also has the right to divorce him.

If your claims about the king is true, what he did is wrong and is not even close to what islam said.

Islam forbids this. No one has the right to treat a woman that way.

ALSO, every society, every country, every civilization, has bad things and good things. Terros doesn' mean only islam. If we relate the religion with terror, all religions are terror. For example, the man in the united states who was on the stage and shot hundreds of people. He was chritian, but this is terrorism. why didn't we say that christianity is terror. This conclude that terrorism doesn't even relate to the religion. Most terrorists have mental and psychological issues.

Terrorists who claim that they are muslims, they're not, because they're doing what islam exactly and coherently tells us NOT to do.

getting back to 11 sep., all muslims felt sad for people who died in that horrible attack. If islam says that we don't kill anyone, how come these terrorists killed innocent people? This means they're not following islam and i don't know why you people are beleiving that what they represent is islam.

ISLAM IS CLEARLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THESE TERRORISTS CLAIM.
they are not one of us.

We hate them, They are also killing us because they tried to bomb the building of the ministry of interior but they finished with bombing the entrance, and also they bombed the major police department and many other places. does it make sense that they are muslims and killing muslims??????????


In summary, i kindly ask you if you want to know about islam (the real islam) you sould read the translated version of holy quran and you will clearly know that what these terrorists are doing are the opposite direction of islam.

Thank you for reading my response,

Naser Ahmed
nass_bass2030@hotmail.com

Tue May 20, 04:18:00 AM 2008  
Blogger Tantor said...

Naser Ahmed: "My name is Naser and i'm from Saudi Arabia. What really makes us frustrated is that many people try to offend islam, and also to present a false stereotype of it."

Naser, you get little sympathy from me or Americans in your complaints about people offending Islam when Muslims are actively mass murdering non-Muslims around the world to spread their religion. Islam deserves a bad name for its evil behavior.

Naser Ahmed: "Islam is not what people claim it is. No one has the right to interpret islam by observing what muslims do because no one is perfect."

Judging Islam by the behavior of Muslims is the best measure of their faith. This is especially true when Muslims lie so much about their religion, which maintains a doctrine of taqiyya, lying to infidels, which endorses such dishonesty.

Naser Ahmed: "In addition, most muslims, recently, follow islam wrongly. If you are talking about that islam is terror? why are there muslims in the united states living in peace."

If you will recall, the Sep 11 skyjackers lived peacefully in America until they killed three thousand Americans. Likewise, other Muslim terrorists have tried to perpetrate murder against their American neighbors, but have been stopped before their plots have matured. Other single Muslims have gone on gun and car rampages that killed Americans.

However, the short answer as to why Muslims mostly live in peace in America is that America is not run by Muslims, who are a violent and intolerant people. Muslims know that they will be punished for their crimes here, unlike a Muslim country where it is acceptable to kill non-Muslims.

Naser Ahmed: "In other words, what these stupid terrorists are doing is the exact opposite what islam says because islam is peace and represent peace."

"Islam is peace" is the Big Lie of Islam. First, when Muslims say Islam means peace they don't mean Islam gets along with other religions but rather that there will be peace when Islam conquers the world. "Islam means peace" is a call to war, disguised as a peaceful sentiment.

And it's pretty ridiculous to tell us you Muslims mean peace when you make war everywhere you go on your neighbors and patrons. You Muslims are currently engaged in a war against humankind, blowing innocent people into bloody chunks from New York to Bali.

Naser Ahmed: "For example, about 11 sep., what terrorist did is the exact opposite what islam tells us to do. In islam we're supposed to live in harmony and peace, not to hurt anyone, especially people from other religions."

Bullshit. Muslim terrorists are imitating the example of the Perfect Muslim, Mohammed. Muslim terrorists skyjacking infidel airliners are merely imitating Mohammed attacking infidel camel caravans. Muslim terrorists assassinating critics of Islam are imitating Mohammed assassinating his critics. Muslim terrorists making snuff videos of beheadings are following the example of Mohammed beheading the hundreds of male capitves of the Quraysh tribe.

Islam is bloody faith of murder. Islamic terrorists are simply carrying out Mohammed's last words to fight every man until all the world submits to Allah. That is a direct command from Mohammed to hurt and kill people of other religions. This is the doctrine of a bellicose and barbarian faith which deserves our contempt.

Naser Ahmed: "Surprisingly enough, islam prohibits killing anyone at anytime unless if he attempts to kill us. In other words, if there is a war between muslims and others, we're allowed to fight the person who tries to kills us only, not women, not children, not old men and not even trees. we are NOT allowed to cut trees in war!!! and you are telling me that islam is terror."

If Islam does not propagate terror, why are virtually all terrorists Muslims? Muslims are quick to invent excuses for their bloody outrages, are full of contrived grievances why they must do evil to their non-Muslim neighbors.

Your claim that Islam has nothing to do with terror while Muslim terrorists are painting the world red with blood is the kind of bald-faced lie that makes us place no weight on anything a Saudi says.

Naser Ahmed: "The prophit Mohammed (peace be upon him) himself said translating " anyone who kills a person is like a sin killing the whole planet, and anyone who saves a person is like saving the whole planet. The muslim religion states: anyone who kills a person should be excuted unless the killed person's family forgives him."

Unfortunately, all those peaceful suras from the beginning of Islam are abrogated by the violent verses that spring from the end of Mohammed's life, when he was merciless in his violence to other religions and intolerant to all. According the Muslim theologians, the Verse of the Sword where Mohammed commands Muslims to ambush infidels and cut off their heads abrogates over 200 of the earlier peaceful verses. That makes Islam a vile and evil religion of bloodletting.

Naser Ahmed: "PLEASE, i ask you kindly, don't judge the whole religion concept by some stupid people's actions."

We Americans judge people by their actions, not by their sales pitch. Other religions come to America to contribute. They build hospitals and universities. There is not one Islamic university nor hospital in America. Muslims don't come to America to build hospitals and universities, but bombs and terror cells.

Naser Ahmed: "About the fatwa (rumor), this is not what islam said, this is bullshit."

All fatwas are bullshit.


Naser Ahmed: "Also, Abullah
alnajdi, is not elligible to say something like that. In addition, there are a lot of arabic newspapers that stated directly after publishing this article by one day, is that this article is fabricated. One of them is the same newspaper which is Al Watan."


Arab Muslim papers are not a reliable source for the facts. They simply print whatever nonsense appeals to their bigoted and ignorant Muslim readers.

Naser Ahmed: "In islam, you said the man can marry 4 women but most people (non-muslims) disagree with this statement. it's not that simple. there are many conditions for the muslim to marry the second, the third, or the fourth. First, the man MUST be fair and MUST be sure that he can be even with them. Secondly, if the first wife cannot get pregnant, the man has the right to marry the second one and better than devorcing her. Also, it is better for the man to stick with her and not marry the second because it may hurt the woman's feelings. Thirdly, if the wife doesn't give the man's right, he can divorce her or marry another woman. the man has NOT the right to hit her or even touch her in an offensive way. Howevr, if the man is not able to give her her rights, she has the right to divorce him. in addition, if the man is not able to have children, she also has the right to divorce him."

Mohammed married four wives. Since he is the Perfect Muslim, his example makes it right for other Muslims. Mohammed also beat at least one of his wives, which makes it right for Muslims to beat their wives. Such marriage doctrine renders Islam a barbarian religion.

Naser Ahmed: "ALSO, every society, every country, every civilization, has bad things and good things. Terros doesn' mean only islam. If we relate the religion with terror, all religions are terror."

Islam is uniquely bad and evil and seeks to impose its evil on the rest of the world by violence. Your idea that other religions foment terrorism like Islam is nonsense. I challenge you to name a religion that has perpetrated as many terrorist atrocities as your contemptible Islam.

Naser Ahmed: "For example, the man in the united states who was on the stage and shot hundreds of people. He was chritian, but this is terrorism. why didn't we say that christianity is terror. This conclude that terrorism doesn't even relate to the religion. Most terrorists have mental and psychological issues."

I don't know of any incident in the US where somebody shot hundreds of people. I think you are mixed up and regurgitating Saudi propaganda. However, the reason why American criminals atrocities are not attributed to Christianity is that Christianity has no doctrine to kill and harm people, as Islam does.

The Saudi schools here in America teach Muslim kids that is OK to hurt and steal from non-Muslims. Your religion says a Muslim should not be punished for killing a non-Muslim as he would for killing a fellow Muslim. The Muslim world celebrated the Sep 11 mass murder and the terrorist atrocities which followed. Your backward faith condones such murder.

The Muslim terrorists who commit these murders are not insane. Many, like Mohammed Atta, have college degrees. Others have families and jobs. They kill because Islam teaches them jihad is the highest virtue, that killing non-Muslims is wonderful and will take them to paradise. It is a sick and inhuman religion.

Naser Ahmed: "getting back to 11 sep., all muslims felt sad for people who died in that horrible attack. If islam says that we don't kill anyone, how come these terrorists killed innocent people? This means they're not following islam and i don't know why you people are beleiving that what they represent is islam."

Bullshit. Muslims celebrated Sep 11. In Saudi Arabia, they slaughtered goats to feast. In Germany, Muslims shot off home-made rockets. In England, Muslims hailed the Glorious Nineteen Martyers. And all over the Muslim world, Muslims wore Bin Laden T-shirts. We can read translations of your newspapers gleefully cheering the murder like Muslims won the World Cup. All over the world, Muslims LOVE terror because they think it hastens their insane dream of conquering the world for Allah.

Naser Ahmed: "ISLAM IS CLEARLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THESE TERRORISTS CLAIM. they are not one of us."

Bullshit. Muslims support terrorists through their contributions at the mosque. They hail them as heroes. Most of the money that supported the Sep 11 attacks came from your country, Saudi Arabia, an enemy of America out of pure religious bigotry.

That's why you see so much public support for terrorists in the Muslim world and no public condemnation. Muslims see terror as the expression of jihad in the dar al harb, just like the Koran says.

Naser Ahmed: "We hate them, They are also killing us because they tried to bomb the building of the ministry of interior but they finished with bombing the entrance, and also they bombed the major police department and many other places. does it make sense that they are muslims and killing muslims??????????"

If Muslims hated terrorists, terrorists would not make mosques the homes for their plotting. If Muslims hated terrorists, the terrorists would be given up by the Muslims they hide among in the middle of their plotting. Instead, Muslims support terror, directly and indirectly. They lie about it to give cover to terrorists. And they actively spend millions to free terrorists whenever they can.


Naser Ahmed: "In summary, i kindly ask you if you want to know about islam (the real islam) you sould read the translated version of holy quran and you will clearly know that what these terrorists are doing are the opposite direction of islam."

I've read enough of the Koran to come to the opposite conclusion: that terrorism is Islamic doctrine that springs directly from the Koran and the example of Mohammed. Modern moral people should reject the example of a robbing, murdering desert bandit as something to imitate or adulate.

Naser Ahmed: "Thank you for reading my response, Naser Ahmed

You're welcome, Naser. I certainly hope America does to Saudi Arabia what it's done to Afghanistan and Iraq. After all, Saudi Arabia is our true enemy and should be destroyed. We should return your jihad upon us back to your front step with interest. America lifted Saudi Arabia up from abject poverty into the lap of luxury and treated your culture and country with respect. In return, you responded with hate and murderous treachery, seeking to murder as many of your benefactors as you possible could. This is not the response of a good and humane people, but the morality of a scorpion.

Tue May 27, 01:11:00 PM 2008  
Blogger lunaticmayang said...

hai! I just know about that... you know why? Because that's just happen in Arab. What about other... what you called as.. moslem from Turkey? from jordan? from malaysia? from Indonesia, from china, or somewhere else? you clearly said that was created by the what is it... a sheikh? and do you know that moslem is not a race? or you think that moslem is a race? hahahaha don't you know that moslem is a name for people who held Islam as their religion, just like christian is the name of people who held christianity, just like budhist for people who believe in budha. See that now? and you don't even ever read their holy book (alquran), how could you said something as if you know the REAL taught? mark on the sentence "the real taught". don't you have a shame? Oh god, you really don't know nothing man! Look, if a budhist, one day, rob a convenient store in the midle of the night, then, he did it because it was the taught of budha? sorry id it sound irrational. BUT, that is the way you think right? a moslem do something bad becoz he is a moslem? becoz it was the taught in islam? then what you gonna say a man who is hindi robbed a bank becoz he is a hindoo? hahahaha look! what you write are all, oh may I say, irrational? stupid? hahahaha
you better try to read their holy book first, then you will se that there are no such thing like what you said. dont just watch irresponsible propaganda from the wrong media. by the way, have you understand what I mean? what's wrong is the people, not the religion, and moslem is not race, is not tribe. do you get that?
You said they agree with slavery. is it the taought of islam? NO. it is the taught of their primitive pride. Can you stop trying to badmouthing Islam, becoz, you know nothing about it. don't you ever realize that?

Tue Jun 16, 12:44:00 PM 2009  
Blogger lunaticmayang said...

You talk about Taliban not allowed women to get educated. Is that the taught from the book? you don't know right? Dont you know there are so many moslem woman go to college in britain, in Oman, in Malaysia, In Jordan, in the US?? how come you said that Taliban represent the real taught of Islam? You talk about war, hahaha, classic. So, you think those meiddle east country should'n have a weapon while they are being attacked by other people? wow what a fair war you got in mind. Do you think it is fair, when you are being attacked then you should not force back, or even defence yourself? well I guess that's fair for you right? Do you think other people never do bad to those midle east countries? come on, they have oil! everyone would kill for their land. everyone know that. how come you don't? say, don't you understand that 9/11 have bring so many benefit to some people? let's see, first three building destroyed to dust, two towers hit by unkown planes, but building 7 just colapsed like the usual building destruction project without any strike. And then Bush get the paper signed. after that, suddenly baghdad have a nuclear weapon??? what the... and then start wars, the wars need money, then the country a huge amount of money to the bank which then have to be returned with the greater interest, then the country have to buy bullets, bombs, guns, etc from the suplier through brokers, and Bush got exchange agreement : iraq give the oil free then US give out of date vaccines, and then on the dust of the buildings there gonna be new giant project! yeah! look, how much money is gained just by destroying 3 old buildings! come on, you don't need to read a propaganda to know this, just use your logic. imagine if you are rothschild, for example, won't you support the war? you will right? becoz you gonna get a great amount of greens, who care about people in the building and in baghdad? who care about the debt, it's not my money, it's the country's money. I'll soon be richer than Gates! isn't that normal? And how come there are many people still believe that the 9/11 done the what are they? iraqi? iranian? whatever. iven if so? how come bin Laden haven't been caught yet? I believe with his ability US can find a person even to the darkest forest and the deepest ocean. so why> it is becoz, bin laden is never meant to be caught. If there's no bin laden, there will be no reason to star war! then, if there's no war, how would I get the money?? and hey, come on, there are so many doubt about the colapse process. everyone who have brain, will simply see that the colapse is impossible if it just caused by a plane srike, that plane was small compared to the building size, and the fall just like planned destruction, you know where bomb planted on the main collums, all the scene is so illogical. wasn't that be a shame for people who have brain to keep blaming someone while the proove said the other side? and quit making stupid propaganda. you know nothing about Islam, I don't know much but I know for sure that the real taught of islam is all about kindnes and goodness to all human being (read the book!). At least use your logic.

Tue Jun 16, 12:47:00 PM 2009  
Blogger lunaticmayang said...

and you said that you hope US will attack Arab too? hahahahahahahahaha
It's kind of hard for me to think about that. There are lots of american capital there! remember? for the oil? US need arab and arab need the money. you think how come they can stand till today if it is not becoz they got business with the US. come on, there is always backing. And, when you work with superpower countries, you will never realize that you have become a tool. Those are smart people in the govenment, it's hard to argue with them, that's why the country get the title "superpower". They really can control everything, including your mind. It's like snapping a finger for them to play with your head, to make you think of nothing but the propaganda they set. that's good to live in great country, but is the gratness really for the people? or is it just jur some people on the stage(but especialy to thoose in the backstage). just be realistic, don't just live in the world you want, there's no such thing. This world is a bad and cruel place, not because of those who do evil, but because of people who close their eyes, their ears, and their senses. Like YOU!! also becoz of people who see but do nothing, he refuses to accept the truth and making his own excuses for cowardness. Like YOU!! it is you who kill people in 9/11, it is you who cause the crisis on humanity, crisis in economy, crisis in morality, it is people like you who kill innocent kids in Gaza.

Tue Jun 16, 01:11:00 PM 2009  
Blogger Nate said...

"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)

"Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Surah 48:29)

Wed Jun 24, 09:31:00 AM 2009  

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