Thursday, November 15, 2007

Leaving Islam

Poster Q_Q writes in "Left Islam To Never Look Back Again" in the very interesting FaithFreedom.org website:
"Here’s the story of how I came to leave and despise Islam and everything it stands for.

My parents are from India, my mother was born a hindu and my father a muslim. They met in college in Delhi, the usual thing happened and they got married. During the initial years, they continued to live in India where both worked in fairly well paying jobs. Neither of them was particularly religious & therefore neither tried to get the other to convert.

About three years after their wedding, they moved to Canada where my father’s sister already lived. My aunt and her family were particularly observant muslims and almost immediately began to pressure my father into becoming more religious, while at the same time exerting pressure upon my mother to convert. Worse, once my aunt found out that my parents were using birth control so that my mother could continue with her career, the pressure became even more intense.

Eventually, my father caved and in turn began to shove his religion down my mother’s throat. In order to save her marriage, she ended up converting and stopped using birth control. She became pregnant with twins (my sister & me) soon after. Once we were born, my father forbid my mother from returning to work and wanted her to become his personal baby factory so he could fulfil his warped religious obligations and have a ton of little muslim babies. For whatever reason however, my mother did not get pregnant again and in time my father began to talk about a second wife.

At the same time, under the influence of his extremely traditional brother-in-law, he had become physically abusive towards my mother and was always both physically and verbally abusive towards my sister. Towards me however, his darling son, he was completely permissive. I admit that as a child I took advantage of my father misogyny to gain the upper hand over my sister.

However, despite being the apple of my father’s eye, I was far more attached to my mother. By the time I reached the age of 5 or 6 I began to see that she was being made to suffer through no fault of her own. I also began to see my father for the monster that he had become as he became ever more religious with time.

When I was 7, my father beat my mother particularly badly one evening. When I confronted him about it, his response was chilling. Apparently, our beloved prophet had instructed his followers that it was appropriate and even necessary to beat our wives to keep them in line. I got a lengthy religious lecture from my father about this that evening. I suppose that at the age of 7 I was more intellectually mature than my 40 year old father as I saw the religious nonsense for the vile crap that it was and at the end of the conversation, I got went upstairs and called the police.

That day was the last time I spoke to my father for many many years. Criminal charges were filed against him, my mother, my sister and I all testified against him in court. He was sentenced to 15 years without parole. We also testified against his sister and brother-in-law for inciting conjugal violence. Ironically enough, my cousins testified against their parents as well. Both my aunt & uncle were sent to prison for two years each & their children came to live with us for the duration.

Of course once we were free of my father, my mother returned to her original hindu religion. My sister & I converted as well. My cousins, who at the time were in their teens (16 and 17) also left islam and became hindus.

Over the years, I am now 30, married and with a child of my own, I have often wondered about why my father underwent the transition from a perfectly normal, loving man to a complete monster. The only true changes that occurred in his life were that he moved from India to Canada and that he became progressively more religious and orthodox. The move in and of itself couldn’t change family dynamics therefore it had to have been the religious aspect that led to the changes in my father. Therefore, as an adult, I decided to find out more about islam.

I read the Quran & the hadiths as well as several books and commentaries written by both muslim and non-muslim scholars. The more I read, the more I came to understand how this religion can turn a perfectly normal man into a complete monster. And the more I find out about this religion the more I despise it.

Fortunately, once in prison, my father’s conscience began to bother him and he came to realize just how much pain he had caused. He too examined his metamorphosis and understood that islam was at the root of everything that had gone wrong in his life. He eventually abandoned islam as well and once he was released from prison he too converted to Hinduism.

Today my entire family is happy & healthy. And we have all learnt a very important lesson – never again will any of us allow a practicing muslim to enter our lives.

17 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is not fair

Sat Feb 23, 11:02:00 AM 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You cannot talk like this about Islam. It is absolutely not fair.

Sat Feb 23, 11:07:00 AM 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You cannot talk like this about Islam. It is absolutely not fair.

Sat Feb 23, 11:08:00 AM 2008  
Blogger Tantor said...

Islam is not above criticism. A barbarous and evil creed such as Islam richly deserves criticism. Here in the civilized world, all subjects are fair game for criticism, unlike the backward Islamic world. The lack of criticism in the Muslim world is one of the major reasons why Islam has degenerated into a depraved purveyor of terror.

Sat Feb 23, 02:48:00 PM 2008  
Blogger Haukur said...

Respect to you Tantor. For a religious person to observe reality is not common and as you say both the fundamental christian an islam religions are a cornerstone to all that is wrong with the world. When a religion openly says that they mean to take over the world either through brainwashing or violence as islam has done I and others who are not religious yet respect others religion are kind of fucked up the ass, so to speak.. Why does Islam fear information and thought. I, myself, try to stuff as much information as I can into my brain so I can make an educated though. I also learn through trial and error. Reading a book does not always get you the knowledge you need, the combination of gathering knowledge through the written word and practice makes perfect.

Also I'd like to point out the sadness of "Anonymous" who did not even have the currage of using a name. For his information I can talk how ever the fuck I want about Islam because I'm not from a third world country with pathetic immature believes harvested by dictators and psychopaths.

I find that India and Hindu as Buddism is one of the religions which I find should honestly be consittered religions that might work.. Allthough I find Hindou to be almost as weird as my native, former, Barbarian religion of Thor and Odin in Valhalla I do believe it's far better than christianity and Islam.. in the sence of lesser of two evils that is. Most people in the world, who have not the cravings of dominating the behaviour of other people, we just want to live our lives, do our things, express ourselves with out hurting other people, physically, financially or psychalogicly (if possible). Thus for I'd like to point out that the religious war that will be between fundamental christians and fundamental islamics is not fair upon the rest of the people allthough we do not believe the same thing we do not appose the right for others to have their believe so I don't get what the fuss is all about..

I am from Iceland and around 1000 a.c. (which means after christ apparently) we got taken over by the christians, forced to take up their religion and to abandon our own Heathen. For one thousand years we have evolved from fundamental psychopaths burning people for witchcraft to an open society. Luthers religion is the state religions meaning the goverment upholds its funding and so forth yet the nation itself does speak out when the religious leaders are doing stupid things like forcing christian studies into schools where they teach facts and give us information for the future. The people did not accept this, the institutions for educating our young ones should never teach religion as a fact because it isn't. Just because I can't disproof something that doesn't make it proofen.

Making this my last sentence and propebly the most important: "Why can't we all just get the fuck along???"

Mon Feb 25, 04:39:00 PM 2008  
Blogger Tantor said...

Haukur,

Thanks for your post.

I disagree that Christian and Islamic fundamentalists are equivalent. The Christians have lost their taste for bloodletting. There's no chance a Baptist will behead you. The worst they'll do is bore you to death witnessing for their faith. Islamic fundamentalism is an entirely different and more primitive creature. Since Sep 11, Muslims have committed ten thousand terrorist atrocities killing 60,000 people and wounding 90,000.

I don't worry too much about losing a war between the West and Islam because Muslims fight with so many handicaps. They're doomed to lose. This current upsurge in radical Islam is but a last upwelling of a backward religion that has been fueled by an accident of geology: oil discovered under their feet.

What I worry about is that Muslims will kill a lot of people for nothing in their doomed jihad.

I suppose the reason why we all can't get along is that Muslims are taught that it is wrong to get along with non-Muslims.

Mon Feb 25, 05:10:00 PM 2008  
Anonymous Hashim Ahmed said...

not to be rude but i say people should get their facts right befor talking about other peoples religions.

for one thing muslims are not taught to hate non-muslims and i'm a muslim, i go to UCSD and i am part of almost all the different orgs. that are on campus. i am friend with so many non muslims that almost all the students know me. i am involved with SAAC(student affermative actions commity), MECHA, and almost every club there i get along with all my friend. some are muslims some hindis. i now people from china almost all the major counties in asia, and those that most people would not know about. if islam teaches muslims not to get along with others why do you think billions of people are muslims. 99.99% of indonesians are muslims and they all became muslims not because muslims came to indonesia and converted the by force. but because of how the muslims traders iteracted with them and how their behaver showed what the real teaching of islam is and even in america thousands of people become muslims every day, do you think poeple will whant to be part of a religion that teaches hate? i would say no.
another thing that i think people should now befor accusing muslims of being vilent. jihad do not mean war. it mean to strugal agents your soul and desiers(wants) want and to do what is right and will benifet soicaty and the comunity. so plz try not to joage a religion because of something some people claming to be a part of the religion do because just b/c they are muslim by name they may not even know the meaning of islam.

and if they know what it ment then something is wrong with them. fyi islam comes from two words salam with means peace and taslim with means submition so the word islam mead peace and submition by the will of god or for muslims(Allah) which literaly means god in arabic. which gets us to the point that how can someone that submits to the will of god do some think domb as to hit his wife. for one thing the prophet never hit his wife for all i know. and before he even married his first wife he worked for her. which shows a lot of repect tords women in general. islam was the first religion to show women as humans and not slave. befor islam in some parts of the would they used to barry the baby girls alive just because they wanted a boy or they did not want female childran as much as they wanted male because of they diad their sons would carry their family name. islam changed all of that and made man and women equal even befor the americans and all the would dicide to.
finaly i feel sorry that your dad was mislead my some stupid people but i do not think you should labal every muslim or even anyone in any religion, for a fact, are bad because someone like your dad or some uneducated person does somthing dumb.
thank you
salam (peace)

hashim

Thu Mar 13, 12:04:00 AM 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i do now believe that u read qur'aan, nor hadhtih.
and beating up is not allowed in Islam. first advice the wife, if it doesnt work over time, stop sharing bed, and then if that doesnt work it says beat them lightly as the prophet demonstrated by hitting himself twice with his miswak (piece of stick).. like tap on on something.. now i dont know who did what. ba dats not Islam
ofcourse everyone has the right to choose what they wanna follow.
but i claim that Islam is the only true way of life.
may Allaah guide us all

Tue Apr 01, 06:47:00 AM 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

correction:
typing mistake in ma comment above... i meant to say dat i do not believ that u read Qur'aan, nor hadhith

Tue Apr 01, 06:49:00 AM 2008  
Blogger Tantor said...

I have read enough evil suras from the Koran, such as the Verse of the Sword, to know that Islam seeks to do evil to non-Muslims. The hate literature prevalent in American mosques demonstrates that Muslims take that hate for non-Muslims to heart. The Sep 11 attacks and the general campaign of terror against the world by Muslims is proof positive that Islam is a religion of hate and violence. The joy with which news of terror atrocities are received in the Muslim world shows them to be a depraved people worshipping a bloodthirsty faith.

Tue Apr 01, 08:19:00 AM 2008  
Blogger Tantor said...

Hashim Ahmed: "not to be rude but i say people should get their facts right befor talking about other peoples religions."

Sep 11 provided all the facts we Americans needed to know about Islam. So did the worldwide Muslim celebration of those three thousand deaths.

It is particularly hypocritical of you to object to criticism of Islam when Islam is so bigoted against all other religions.

Hashim Ahmed: "for one thing muslims are not taught to hate non-muslims ..."

The documentation of Muslim hate against other religions is overwhelming. Virtually all mosques in America contain Wahhabi hate literature from Saudi Arabia. The Koran and hadith are full of verses that demand Muslims not be friends with non-Muslims, not imitate them, and do evil to them.

Hashim Ahmed: "... and i'm a muslim, i go to UCSD and i am part of almost all the different orgs. that are on campus. i am friend with so many non muslims that almost all the students know me. ... "

Thank goodness you live in America which tolerates other religions, rather than a Muslim country which doesn't.

Hashim Ahmed: "if islam teaches muslims not to get along with others why do you think billions of people are muslims. 99.99% of indonesians are muslims and they all became muslims not because muslims came to indonesia and converted the by force. but because of how the muslims traders iteracted with them and how their behaver showed what the real teaching of islam is..."

Why is it that everywhere Muslims go they make war on their neighbors? Why do Muslim countries only have minorities of other religions, minorities who are harassed and driven out? You can not have a country that is 99.99% anything without compulsion.

Indonesia is the exception in Islam in that it was the only country not converted by war to Islam. It is not the rule. Even there, Muslims kill non-Muslims out of sheer hate and bigotry.

Hashim Ahmed: "...and even in america thousands of people become muslims every day, do you think poeple will whant to be part of a religion that teaches hate? i would say no."

Bullshit. There are not thousands of Americans converting to Islam. Muslims are growing in American largely through immigration and hyper-reproduction, secondly through conversion by marriage.

And John Walker Lindh and Adam Gadahn became Muslim in California and joined Al Qaeda for the pure hate of it.

Hashim Ahmed: "another thing that i think people should now befor accusing muslims of being vilent. jihad do not mean war. it mean to strugal agents your soul and desiers(wants) want and to do what is right and will benifet soicaty and the comunity. so plz try not to joage a religion because of something some people claming to be a part of the religion do because just b/c they are muslim by name they may not even know the meaning of islam."

We'll be more willing to accept your argument that Muslims aren't violent when they stop killing people in planes, trains, and automobiles. Since Sep 11, Muslims have killed more than 60,000 people in terror attacks.

Ex-Muslims like Nonie Darwish say that the violent interpretation of jihad was the only one taught to them in the Middle East. They never heard of the peaceful interpretation until they came to America. It is propagand meant to deceive us, taqqiya intended to throw us off from the true evil intent of Muslims.

Hashim Ahmed: "... and if they know what it ment then something is wrong with them. fyi islam comes from two words salam with means peace and taslim with means submition so the word islam mead peace and submition by the will of god or for muslims(Allah) which literaly means god in arabic."

Islam means "submission." Not peace. When Muslims say Islam means peace, the true meaning is the peace that will come when all the world is Muslim. Until then Muslims believe in war to conquer the world. In that sense, Islam means peace is a call to war to bring the victory of Islam everywhere. Islam means peace is the Big Lie of Islam.

Tue Apr 01, 04:34:00 PM 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More about the religion of peace !

http://blogg.visir.is/itsuart/

Thu Aug 21, 08:21:00 PM 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you have never read the qur'an or hadith you just heard if it.

whats wrong with you??

why do you lie so poeple can leave the religion... anyways your story wont change any1 rather it will make more people come to islam.

just because they cirouse and you also know that islam is the fastest religion growing.

every year 20,000 pepole become muslim in US...

May Allah (God)guide you

Tue Nov 18, 10:07:00 PM 2008  
Blogger Tantor said...

What's wrong with a religion that murders to advance itself? The only way that the numbers of Muslims increase in the US is by Muslims immigrating from Muslim countries that have made themselves horrible to live in largely because of Muslim rule. They move here because we believe in freedom of religion, unlike the barbarous and intolerant Islam, which makes America a paradise on Earth. The fact that Muslims come here from Muslim countries demonstrates their rejection of Islam.

Wed Nov 19, 12:13:00 AM 2008  
Anonymous A tired old muslim said...

What is with these lies always spread?!?! it's always a differnt race, the jews in ww2 were considered devils and now the muslims. NOT.RIGHT

Sun Nov 23, 05:54:00 PM 2008  
Blogger Tantor said...

Jews were only devils during WWII to Nazis and Muslims. Muslims are in disrepute now because of their campaign of terror against the world. Stop building bombs and start building hospitals. Stop forming terror cells and start forming universities. Change your belligerent and bloodthirsty behavior to peaceful and tolerant behavior and you will not be reviled, as you justly are now.

Mon Nov 24, 12:38:00 AM 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for sharing that was beautiful.One thing about Islam people need to understand is that Islam does not and will not get any special treatment in non-muslim parts of the world. No religion is above criticism.We have science today which explains why a lot of the things in the world happen and yes it does go against religion of Islam, but I'm going to believe science obviously. If you had a choice whether to believe the 7th century thinking of a flat Earth or the modern day scientifically proven fact that the Earth is round which would you believe? Also, I've noticed comments by muslims who are upset,not just here,but everywhere their religion is criticized and put into the spotlight for evaluation, they get outraged. Muslims are outraged when ppl call them terrorist,they're outraged when Islam is criticized,they're outraged when ppl convert to another religion from Islam.I just have one question for those muslims,where were you when millions of young muslims decide they would kill in the name of religion? Where were you during 9/11? Where were you during the Mumbai terror attacks in 08'? DOUBLE STANDARDS.
Islam is also too concerned with conversions & so is Christianity for the most part.Hinduism is really a way of life not Islam as some muslims say and there is no such thing as conversion of religion in Hinduism which goes to show u how peaceful Hindus are. Converting in and out of religions is where most of the problems occur.When a religion is only concerned with how many people are converting to their religion daily that becomes a problem.

Fri Dec 17, 07:57:00 PM 2010  

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